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		<title>Comment on More WACkiness by saulo</title>
		<link>http://vizZzion.org/blog/2012/05/more-wackiness/comment-page-1/#comment-9192</link>
		<dc:creator>saulo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 11:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you Sebas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you Sebas</p>
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		<title>Comment on More WACkiness by sebas</title>
		<link>http://vizZzion.org/blog/2012/05/more-wackiness/comment-page-1/#comment-9136</link>
		<dc:creator>sebas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 14:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The code is in a Git repository, you can find in my scratch area: git clone git://anongit.kde.org/scratch/sebas/plasma-scriptengine-wac</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The code is in a Git repository, you can find in my scratch area: git clone git://anongit.kde.org/scratch/sebas/plasma-scriptengine-wac</p>
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		<title>Comment on More WACkiness by saulo</title>
		<link>http://vizZzion.org/blog/2012/05/more-wackiness/comment-page-1/#comment-9129</link>
		<dc:creator>saulo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 11:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skier,

  So can I expect that this WAC implementation in Plasma will be more portable? Where can I found this code?

  I understand that &quot;hard work is already done by the excellent webkit&quot; but I am looking code that can be used across diferent linux environments for loading the package format and access system APIs.

thx,
SauLo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skier,</p>
<p>  So can I expect that this WAC implementation in Plasma will be more portable? Where can I found this code?</p>
<p>  I understand that &#8220;hard work is already done by the excellent webkit&#8221; but I am looking code that can be used across diferent linux environments for loading the package format and access system APIs.</p>
<p>thx,<br />
SauLo</p>
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		<title>Comment on More WACkiness by wtfdfd</title>
		<link>http://vizZzion.org/blog/2012/05/more-wackiness/comment-page-1/#comment-9079</link>
		<dc:creator>wtfdfd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 00:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And task manager?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And task manager?</p>
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		<title>Comment on More WACkiness by S Page</title>
		<link>http://vizZzion.org/blog/2012/05/more-wackiness/comment-page-1/#comment-9078</link>
		<dc:creator>S Page</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 23:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@saulo,
You&#039;d think so.

The Tizen source is at https://review.tizen.org/git/ , organized by packages. It&#039;s hard to figure out where anything is. If &lt;a href=&quot;https://review.tizen.org/git/?p=api/device.git;a=tree&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this is the device API&lt;/a&gt; , it seems to be a wrapper with a lot of Tizen-specific glue that calls into a vconf layer, e.g.
  vconf_notify_key_changed(VCONFKEY_SYSMAN_BATTERY_CAPACITY, battery_changed_inside_cb, NULL);
and that C code doesn&#039;t match the &lt;a href=&quot;http://specs.wacapps.net/devicestatus/#battery-aspect&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;actual WAC spec&lt;/a&gt;.

(It&#039;s interesting that the Tizen source still includes the Meego ivi &quot;in-vehicle infotainment&quot; code. Its torturous GTK/Qt/Efl Maemo/Meego/whatever history must impose a lot of legacy.)

It does seem crazy that &lt;em&gt;every&lt;/em&gt; new phone and tablet device saying the &quot;Write HTML5 apps&quot; mantra (BBX, Tizen, webOS are all based on Linux or workalikes and Webkit) is reinventing all this stuff. Maybe the &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.merproject.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mer project&lt;/a&gt; can unify the implementations, but a volunteer effort trailing behind the carnage of Nokia decisions seems very understaffed for such a big job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@saulo,<br />
You&#8217;d think so.</p>
<p>The Tizen source is at <a href="https://review.tizen.org/git/" rel="nofollow">https://review.tizen.org/git/</a> , organized by packages. It&#8217;s hard to figure out where anything is. If <a href="https://review.tizen.org/git/?p=api/device.git;a=tree" rel="nofollow">this is the device API</a> , it seems to be a wrapper with a lot of Tizen-specific glue that calls into a vconf layer, e.g.<br />
  vconf_notify_key_changed(VCONFKEY_SYSMAN_BATTERY_CAPACITY, battery_changed_inside_cb, NULL);<br />
and that C code doesn&#8217;t match the <a href="http://specs.wacapps.net/devicestatus/#battery-aspect" rel="nofollow">actual WAC spec</a>.</p>
<p>(It&#8217;s interesting that the Tizen source still includes the Meego ivi &#8220;in-vehicle infotainment&#8221; code. Its torturous GTK/Qt/Efl Maemo/Meego/whatever history must impose a lot of legacy.)</p>
<p>It does seem crazy that <em>every</em> new phone and tablet device saying the &#8220;Write HTML5 apps&#8221; mantra (BBX, Tizen, webOS are all based on Linux or workalikes and Webkit) is reinventing all this stuff. Maybe the <a href="http://wiki.merproject.org/" rel="nofollow">Mer project</a> can unify the implementations, but a volunteer effort trailing behind the carnage of Nokia decisions seems very understaffed for such a big job.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More WACkiness by edd</title>
		<link>http://vizZzion.org/blog/2012/05/more-wackiness/comment-page-1/#comment-9019</link>
		<dc:creator>edd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 15:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>look a little bit different</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look a little bit different</p>
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		<title>Comment on More WACkiness by saulo</title>
		<link>http://vizZzion.org/blog/2012/05/more-wackiness/comment-page-1/#comment-8927</link>
		<dc:creator>saulo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 11:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont understand much about this... but couldn´t you just reuse the WAC-specified API code from TIZEN (www.tizen.org/) instead of create a new implementation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont understand much about this&#8230; but couldn´t you just reuse the WAC-specified API code from TIZEN (www.tizen.org/) instead of create a new implementation?</p>
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		<title>Comment on More WACkiness by Diederik van der Boor</title>
		<link>http://vizZzion.org/blog/2012/05/more-wackiness/comment-page-1/#comment-8902</link>
		<dc:creator>Diederik van der Boor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 19:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 for merging the auth dialogs, just having the &quot;App required authorization&quot; dialog with all icons seams much cleaner to me. (perhaps that can be expanded in a &quot;details..&quot; box)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 for merging the auth dialogs, just having the &#8220;App required authorization&#8221; dialog with all icons seams much cleaner to me. (perhaps that can be expanded in a &#8220;details..&#8221; box)</p>
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		<title>Comment on More WACkiness by csslayer</title>
		<link>http://vizZzion.org/blog/2012/05/more-wackiness/comment-page-1/#comment-8898</link>
		<dc:creator>csslayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 18:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure, but seems yet another google gadget?

But that remind me about plasma&#039;s windowed mode, so it might can make it way to &quot;Real App&quot; to Plasma Active.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure, but seems yet another google gadget?</p>
<p>But that remind me about plasma&#8217;s windowed mode, so it might can make it way to &#8220;Real App&#8221; to Plasma Active.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More WACkiness by sebas</title>
		<link>http://vizZzion.org/blog/2012/05/more-wackiness/comment-page-1/#comment-8897</link>
		<dc:creator>sebas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 18:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Air, the default.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Air, the default.</p>
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